Tuesday 10 January 2017

Daily Sun

3 months ago
Same-sex debate not over - Makgoba
    Thabo Makgoba (Netwerk24)  ~ 
    Discussions about the status of same-sex members in the Anglican Church will continue despite a recent vote against the inclusion of certain practices relating to them, Archbishop Thabo Makgoba said yesterday.
    "The debate is not over," said Makgoba in a statement following a synod on Friday in Ekhurhuleni during which two proposals were rejected.
    "It remains my hope that those on both sides of this debate can overcome their differences."
    As part of a debate on the issue of pastoral care for people in same-sex relationships, a motion was put forward that bishops be allowed to license clergy, who identified as LGBTI and are in a same sex civil union, to minister in parishes. Another proposal made was that bishops may "provide for prayers of blessing to be offered for those in same sex civil unions" – although not actually marry them under Church law.
    The motions were put forward to the three separate "houses" of the Synod: The bishops, clergy and laity.
    Put forward as a "controversial motion", the proposal needed to both obtain a simple majority in each of the three houses – as well as a two-thirds majority overall to pass.
    "The motion failed to achieve a simple majority in any House," said Makgoba.
    "The bishops voted 16 to six against the motion, the laity 41 to 25 against and the clergy 42 to 34 against," Makgoba said.
    The Archbishop added that even after the vote, "The pain on both sides of the debate in synod was palpable and no one celebrated or applauded the outcome".
    He said it was also "notable" that a number of those who voted against the motions did not reject them "out of hand" but instead proposed that "our Church was not yet ready for such a move".
    Makgoba said that Friday's synod was the first time the issue had been seriously debated by the Church.
    "Representatives are free to raise it again at future synods."
    The synod held on Friday covered Anglican churches in Angola, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland and the island of St Helena.
    Of these countries, only the South African state allows same-sex civil unions.
    "As it was, the degree of support for the motion was quite substantial if you compare us to other African provinces of the Anglican Church, most of which are vigorously opposed to same-sex unions in any form."
    Makgoba urged LGBTI members to "stick with us" and contribute to future deliberations on the matter.

    Daily Sun

    2 months ago
    NEW PARTY AGAINST SAME SEX LOVE!
      People’s Revolutionary Movement KZN provincial chairwoman, Buyi Sibisi, national treasurer Muzi Dludla, president Nhlanhla Buthelezi and the national chairwoman Nokwethemba Biyela.  ~ 
      NEWLY launched political party People’s Revolutionary Movement (PRM) is calling on the Minister of Home Affairs Malusi Gigaba to provide a platform for discussion of same sex marriages.
      PRM national spokesman Nhlanhla Mhlongo told Daily Sun that the issue of same-sex relationships was a serious one that needed careful consideration.
      “As a movement we are 100 percent against same-sex marriages. The movement stands for a normal society that consists of men and women.”
      He said they saluted all the church leaders who observed God’s commandments.
      “We denounce those leaders who promote Sodom and Gomorrah in the land of our kings and queens.”
      Speaking to party members at the official launch in Durban on Sunday, PRM president Nhlanhla Buthelezi said they valued the historic role played by the African kings, queens and all the traditional leaders.
      “We will campaign for aggressive, vigorous and visible results of Operation Pakisa, so all illegal foreign nationals are repatriated to their countries.”
      He called for free, quality education and a decolonised education system at all levels.
      He added that they also supported the move for South Africa to resign from the International Criminal Court.
      Sbongiseni Khumalo, programmes manager at the Durban Gay and Lesbian Community Health Centre said: “We are all guided by the Constitution. We understand that everyone has their own opinions. But people should be careful in what they say because things like this can lead to hate crimes. It is only our sexual orientation that makes us different.”
      Javu Baloyi, Commission for Gender Equality spokesman said that everyone had a right to their sexual preferences.
      Mayihlome Tshwete, spokesman for Home Affairs, said it was not the mandate of the department to create a platform for discussions.
      “If they want to discuss the issue they can do it on their own.”